From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com Wed May 7 09:39:15 2008 From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher) Date: Wed May 7 09:57:35 2008 Subject: [EmData] Odd behaviour XData Message-ID: I can?t think of a snappy way to describe this for the subject header! I don?t think this is new, but it?s only just affected me. In a longish prototype, I start a line of text in any one of 3 styles, depending on certain conditions. One is range left, one is range right, one is range left with a 1mm left indent. Various things happen along the line. Eventually I get to a return. BUT the style of the return in the prototype imposes itself on the whole paragraph, at least I think that is what?s happening. I was puzzled because the style would be right in the prototype, wrong on the page, and I finally tracked it down to the return. So now I impose the same conditions as I did at the beginning of the line, and the return is in the appropriate style, and everything works. But if you?re in Quark and you paste a range right return at the end of a range left paragraph, the paragraph style doesn?t change. Of course it does if you paste something at the FRONT of a paragraph, but not at the end. So why does this happen? Has anyone else come up against it? Quark 6.2, by the way. Emma - - Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not represent the views of the Company. Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080507/342c666e/attachment.html From support at emsoftware.com Wed May 7 10:22:16 2008 From: support at emsoftware.com (Chris Ryland - Em Support) Date: Wed May 7 10:40:16 2008 Subject: [EmData] Odd behaviour XData In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C036B3E-63BA-4808-B6AB-08522BEC0CA8@emsoftware.com> Emma-- Sorry for any confusion. The paragraph properties set at the finally included paragraph return definitely determines the properties set for the whole conditional. I'm not sure what you mean by the final paragraph, though. Can you elaborate a bit? Thanks. On May 7, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Emma Glaisher wrote: > I can?t think of a snappy way to describe this for the subject header! > > I don?t think this is new, but it?s only just affected me. In a > longish prototype, I start a line of text in any one of 3 styles, > depending on certain conditions. One is range left, one is range > right, one is range left with a 1mm left indent. > > Various things happen along the line. Eventually I get to a return. > BUT the style of the return in the prototype imposes itself on the > whole paragraph, at least I think that is what?s happening. I was > puzzled because the style would be right in the prototype, wrong on > the page, and I finally tracked it down to the return. > > So now I impose the same conditions as I did at the beginning of the > line, and the return is in the appropriate style, and everything > works. > > But if you?re in Quark and you paste a range right return at the end > of a range left paragraph, the paragraph style doesn?t change. Of > course it does if you paste something at the FRONT of a paragraph, > but not at the end. So why does this happen? Has anyone else come up > against it? > > Quark 6.2, by the way. > > Emma > - - > Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. > Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, > Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ > > Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any > attachments are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the > named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify > us immediately and delete this document. The contents on this > document must not be disclosed to any other person nor may any > copies be taken. The views of the author may not represent the views > of the Company. > > Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that > Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All > liability for any claims arising as a result of using this medium to > transmit information by us or to us is excluded to the extent > permitted by law. > _______________________________________________ > Data-users mailing list > Data-users@emsoftware.com > http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users Cheers! --Chris Ryland / Em Software, Inc. / www.emsoftware.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080507/b1a78921/attachment.html From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com Wed May 7 10:25:59 2008 From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher) Date: Wed May 7 10:44:11 2008 Subject: [EmData] Odd behaviour XData In-Reply-To: <8C036B3E-63BA-4808-B6AB-08522BEC0CA8@emsoftware.com> Message-ID: I don?t think I used the words ?final paragraph?! Your reply confirms what I thought. It seems surprising, but now I?ve found it out I just have to put in 3 conditional returns! Thanks for prompt response. Emma on 07.05.2008 15:22, Chris Ryland - Em Support at support@emsoftware.com wrote: > Emma-- > > Sorry for any confusion. > > The paragraph properties set at the finally included paragraph return > definitely determines the properties set for the whole conditional. > > I'm not sure what you mean by the final paragraph, though. Can you elaborate a > bit? - - Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not represent the views of the Company. Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080507/453c8530/attachment.html From support at emsoftware.com Wed May 7 10:39:40 2008 From: support at emsoftware.com (Chris Ryland - Em Support) Date: Wed May 7 10:57:36 2008 Subject: [EmData] Odd behaviour XData In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95DDE28D-9FC2-4D9F-A31B-0811523DE811@emsoftware.com> Sorry, I meant I don't understand what you said in your final (well, penultimate) paragraph (too many "paragraph"s ;-): > But if you?re in Quark and you paste a range right return at the end > of a range left paragraph, the paragraph style doesn?t change. Of > course it does if you paste something at the FRONT of a paragraph, > but not at the end. So why does this happen? Has anyone else come up > against it? On May 7, 2008, at 10:25 AM, Emma Glaisher wrote: > I don?t think I used the words ?final paragraph?! > > Your reply confirms what I thought. It seems surprising, but now > I?ve found it out I just have to put in 3 conditional returns! > > Thanks for prompt response. > > Emma > > > on 07.05.2008 15:22, Chris Ryland - Em Support at support@emsoftware.com > wrote: > >> Emma-- >> >> Sorry for any confusion. >> >> The paragraph properties set at the finally included paragraph >> return definitely determines the properties set for the whole >> conditional. >> >> I'm not sure what you mean by the final paragraph, though. Can you >> elaborate a bit? > > > - - > Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. > Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, > Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. 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