From support at emsoftware.com Wed Jul 2 13:28:43 2008 From: support at emsoftware.com (Chris Ryland - Em Support) Date: Wed Jul 2 13:50:06 2008 Subject: [EmData] Re: Is it possible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marnie-- Yes, the very latest Xdatas can anchor multi-column text boxes, and shrink them to fit, so you could have a 2-column anchored box that's filled and shrunk to fit, followed by the full-width owner info. Is that enough to get you started? On Jul 2, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Miszewski, Marnie wrote: > I submitted this question to the data-users forum, but I think I > need a speedy answer to this one... > > > Right now I have a two column text box on a page and am using XData > to import the information into it. > > The information needs to flow into both columns and finish with the > owners information in a one column box centered underneath. Because > I don't know how much information each box will have, I can't put > static text boxes on the page. They will vary in size depending on > how many listings each owner has. > > Is there a way to get XData to flow the text boxes on the page as > well according to the size of the information? > > I have attached an example of how the finished product is meant to > look. > > > > -- > Marnie Miszewski > Ad Ops Designer/Automation Specialist > > The News-Press > 2442 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. > Fort Myers, FL 33901 > > Direct: 239.344.4884 > mmiszews@fortmyer.gannett.com > > Visit us on the Web at www.news-press.com > Cheers! --Chris Ryland / Em Software, Inc. / www.emsoftware.com From ppasquier at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 08:22:00 2008 From: ppasquier at gmail.com (Pascal Pasquier) Date: Mon Jul 7 08:22:03 2008 Subject: [EmData] the Y qualifier Message-ID: Hello I'm sorry but I don't understand how I can using the Y qualifier in a DD for having only one for multiple tables. Is there any nice person to show me an example. I read the manual but this section is shorter for me regards Pascal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080707/6115f8aa/attachment.html From ppasquier at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 08:58:03 2008 From: ppasquier at gmail.com (Pascal Pasquier) Date: Mon Jul 7 08:58:26 2008 Subject: [EmData] Using the Y qualifier Message-ID: Hello I want to use further tables of mySQL by ODBC driver, I read the manual and saw that the Y Qualifier do that but I'm not sure that I understand well how to use it Is there anyone who can help me, by showing me a example because the paragraph about this in manual is so shorter regards Pascal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080707/6c1de800/attachment.html From kjeld at grosen.dk Thu Jul 24 12:59:53 2008 From: kjeld at grosen.dk (Kjeld Grosen) Date: Thu Jul 24 13:01:50 2008 Subject: [EmData] XData/InData Message-ID: <4888B509.9080202@grosen.dk> Hello World. One of my clients is planning switching from QX/Xdata on MAC to InDesign/InData on PC (!!!) Can I make a QuarkXpress document with a prototype in XData and open it in InDesign with InData without editing? Hope to hear from You.. Kjeld Grosen (XDatas vet. for almost 20 years) Grosen Kataloger Denmark From support at emsoftware.com Thu Jul 24 13:12:20 2008 From: support at emsoftware.com (Joe Mathia - Em Support) Date: Thu Jul 24 13:13:26 2008 Subject: [EmData] XData/InData In-Reply-To: <4888B509.9080202@grosen.dk> Message-ID: Hi Kjeld, Yes, you should be able to open your QuarkXPress 4.x documents directly in InDesign. InDesign cannot automatically convert later Quark documents (v5, v6, or v7). If you have these, you need to back-save from, for example, from Quqrk 7 to Quark 6, then from 6 to 5, then from 5 to 4. Or, there are utilities that you can purchase that convert Quark 5,6, or 7 documents to InDesign. Once the documents are converter, things should pretty much work. Sometimes Quark automatic text boxes aren?t converted correctly, though, especially if your masters have a lot of threaded text boxes/frames. In this case, you might need to set the autoflow thread in the first box of your text flow on each page of your master spreads (see the set/clear autoflow thread toggle in the Object menu), and then thread through any other frames on the masters. Also, the InDesign paragraph composer works differently than Quark?s (Leading, for example, is a character attribute in InDesign). So, you might need to adjust spacing a bit. Finally, if you are using ?numtochar(11)? or ?numtochar(12)? to insert frame/page breaks, you?ll need to replace these with the literal characters. Regards, Joe Mathia Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com (+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210 On 7/24/08 11:59 AM, "Kjeld Grosen" wrote: > Hello World. > > One of my clients is planning switching from QX/Xdata on MAC to > InDesign/InData on PC (!!!) > > Can I make a QuarkXpress document with a prototype in XData and open it > in InDesign with InData without editing? > > Hope to hear from You.. > > Kjeld Grosen (XDatas vet. for almost 20 years) > Grosen Kataloger > Denmark > > _______________________________________________ > Data-users mailing list > Data-users@emsoftware.com > http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users > From ahyorth at abr-nc.com Wed Jul 30 11:20:03 2008 From: ahyorth at abr-nc.com (a hyorth) Date: Wed Jul 30 11:22:29 2008 Subject: [EmData] 2 questions about text and pictures Message-ID: <208898FE-C0E2-400E-AF08-7C1894EB6C87@abr-nc.com> two questions, please: I have been using Xdata to complete multi-page listing ads in a real estate publication. I import from an Excel tab-separated file. How can I import text exactly as it appears in the Excel file without changing any of the existing bold or unbolded text? If I want to import pictures into two picture boxes, do the boxes have to be embedded in the prototype or can one of the boxes float on top of the other? alphie hyorth art director Real Estate Weekly 209 E. Chestnut Asheville, NC 28801 828-255-8505 ext. 19 ahyorth@abr-nc.com From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com Wed Jul 30 11:27:08 2008 From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher) Date: Wed Jul 30 11:28:42 2008 Subject: [EmData] 2 questions about text and pictures In-Reply-To: <208898FE-C0E2-400E-AF08-7C1894EB6C87@abr-nc.com> Message-ID: Sorry, forgot to hit reply all, in case it's helpful to anyone else! My 2c worth on question 1: The fact that your tab-sep file came from Excel is actually irrelevant - the formatting is gone. It could have come from Filemaker, or from Quark, or Word. However, if you can find some way of putting XPress Tags onto your text, you can preserve the bolds. You would also need to put the following line into your prototype: ?set defaultisstyled to true? If you can really get away with emboldened type, just pop at each end of your bold bits, so 'this text is bold and this isn't'. Case is important - won't wash. Otherwise you'll have to put in the correct font tags. I'm not actually sure how you'd do this in Excel, it's not an application I'm expert in, but I'm sure it must be possible? Emma on 30.07.2008 16:20, a hyorth at ahyorth@abr-nc.com wrote: > two questions, please: > I have been using Xdata to complete multi-page listing ads in a real > estate publication. I import from an Excel tab-separated file. How > can I import text exactly as it appears in the Excel file without > changing any of the existing bold or unbolded text? > > If I want to import pictures into two picture boxes, do the boxes > have to be embedded in the prototype or can one of the boxes float on > top of the other? > > alphie hyorth > art director > Real Estate Weekly > 209 E. Chestnut > Asheville, NC 28801 > 828-255-8505 ext. 19 > ahyorth@abr-nc.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Data-users mailing list > Data-users@emsoftware.com > http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users > > - - > Inbound email: This email has been scanned for viruses by MessageLabs > (Fourninety) - - Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments are confidential. 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You have two options: split up your text into discreet fields so that you can apply your styling granularly. Or, as Emma suggests, apply Xpress-style formatting tags, and use ?put styled...? statements to set your text. Regarding bringing in images, you can certainly bring in more than one image per record. However images are imported as anchored items, so you really can't "float" one over another. However, we have a lot of folks doing real estate guides with Xdata. Could you send me a mock-up of your desired layout (QX doc or PDF would be fine), and I could send you a demo showing howw you might approach setting things up. Regards, Joe Mathia Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com (+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210 On 7/30/08 10:20 AM, "a hyorth" wrote: > two questions, please: > I have been using Xdata to complete multi-page listing ads in a real > estate publication. I import from an Excel tab-separated file. How > can I import text exactly as it appears in the Excel file without > changing any of the existing bold or unbolded text? > > If I want to import pictures into two picture boxes, do the boxes > have to be embedded in the prototype or can one of the boxes float on > top of the other? > > alphie hyorth > art director > Real Estate Weekly > 209 E. 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So I just need to be clear how your data is structured. on 31.07.2008 10:15, stephen_ball at stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com wrote: > I am trying to use bullet point characters within a field which contains > foreign language translations as a separator. > example below: > > bavlna ? bavlna ? bawe<\#U0142>na ? pamut ? pamuk,nylon woven ? nylon wav ? > nylon wen ? nylon vew ? naylon wev > > Rather than laying out the fields as they appear above, I need to place the > first, second, third, fourth and fifth word of each field next to each other: > e.g. > bavlna nylon woven > bavlna nylon wav > Is there any statement which can be used to incorporate the first, second, > third and fourth bullet points as separators? > > Regards, > Stephen Ball. > > > This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended > recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that > it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. 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URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080731/aefe40a1/attachment.html From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com Thu Jul 31 05:32:01 2008 From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher) Date: Thu Jul 31 05:33:39 2008 Subject: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator In-Reply-To: <006901c8f2f0$47bf4790$8120a8c0@STSUK.eu.shr2shr.com> Message-ID: OK, I?m being dense. Does one record contain: Czech(1st), Czech(2nd).... Czech(9th), Slovakian(1st)........ Turk(9th) ? i.e. each record, or line, contains 45 fields, 9 each of 5 languages? So what you want to extract is: Field 1 ? Field 2 ? Field 3 ?...... Field 9 [return] Field 10 ? Field 11.... .... Field 37 ? Field 38.....? Field 45 This should be simple, so I think I?m missing the point somewhere! Please describe an actual record. Emma on 31.07.2008 10:31, stephen_ball at stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com wrote: > Hi Emma, > > note there can be more than one word required for each field required for > layout, such as "nylon woven". > The fields (there can be up to 9 populated with data) currently contain data > layed out as: > Czech, Slovakian, Polish, Hungarian, Turkish > > I need to take the word(s) from each field if populated (separated by bullet > points) to lay them out as: > Czech(1st field), Czech(2nd field), Czech(3rd field), Czech(4th field), > Czech(5th field), Czech(6th field), Czech(7th field), Czech(8th field), > Czech(9th field) > Slovakian(1st field), Slovakian(2nd field), Slovakian(3rd field), > Slovakian(4th field), Slovakian(5th field), Slovakian(6th field), > Slovakian(7th field), Slovakian(8th field), Czech(9th field) > Polish(1st field), Polish(2nd field), Polish(3rd field), Polish(4th field), > Polish(5th field), Polish(6th field), Polish(7th field), Polish(from 8th > field), Polish(9th field) > Hung(1st field), Hung(2nd field), Hung(3rd field), Hung(4th field), Hung(5th > field), Hung(6th field), Hung(7th field), Hung(8th field), Hung(9th field) > Turk(1st field), Turk(from 2nd field), Turk(from 3rd field), Turk(from 4th > field), Turk(from 5th field), Turk(from 6th field), Turk(from 7th field), > Turk(from 8th field), Turk(from 9th field) > > Regards. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emma Glaisher [mailto:emma.glaisher@fourninety.com] > Sent: 31 July 2008 10:13 > To: stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com; data-users@emsoftware.com > Subject: Re: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator > > Certainly. But can you just include a few records so we can see exactly where > and when the fields start? For example, ?nylon woven? is not one word but 2. > So I just need to be clear how your data is structured. > > > on 31.07.2008 10:15, stephen_ball at stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com wrote: > >> I am trying to use bullet point characters within a field which contains >> foreign language translations as a separator. >> example below: >> >> bavlna ? bavlna ? bawe<\#U0142>na ? pamut ? pamuk,nylon woven ? nylon wav >> ? nylon wen ? nylon vew ? naylon wev >> >> Rather than laying out the fields as they appear above, I need to place the >> first, second, third, fourth and fifth word of each field next to each >> other: >> e.g. >> bavlna nylon woven >> bavlna nylon wav >> Is there any statement which can be used to incorporate the first, second, >> third and fourth bullet points as separators? >> >> Regards, >> Stephen Ball. >> >> >> This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended >> recipient only. 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URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080731/911bc0a1/attachment-0001.html From stephen_ball at eu.shr2shr.com Thu Jul 31 06:13:25 2008 From: stephen_ball at eu.shr2shr.com (stephen_ball) Date: Thu Jul 31 06:09:36 2008 Subject: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008001c8f2f6$12d2a350$8120a8c0@STSUK.eu.shr2shr.com> Emma, example of actual fields below named FM1 and FM2 FM1 bavlna . bavlna . bawe<\#U0142>na . pamut . pamuk FM2 nylon woven . nylon wav . nylon wen . nylon vew . naylon wev Up to first bullet point of each field is Czech, up to second bullet point of each field is Slovakian and so on... I need to extract data from each field (Czech/Slovakian/Polish/Hungarian/Turkish) so they are positioned next to each other. Using fields above, this would be layed out as: bavlna nylon woven *word(s) up to first bullet point of FM1 and FM2* bavlna nylon wav *word(s) up to second bullet point of FM1 and FM2* bawe<\#U0142>na nylon wen *word(s) up to third bullet point of FM1 and FM2* pamut nylon vew *word(s) up to fourth bullet point of FM1 and FM2* pamuk naylon wev *word(s) after fourth point of FM1 and FM2* Stephen. -----Original Message----- From: Emma Glaisher [mailto:emma.glaisher@fourninety.com] Sent: 31 July 2008 10:32 To: stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com; data-users@emsoftware.com Subject: Re: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator OK, I'm being dense. Does one record contain: Czech(1st), Czech(2nd).... Czech(9th), Slovakian(1st)........ Turk(9th) ? i.e. each record, or line, contains 45 fields, 9 each of 5 languages? So what you want to extract is: Field 1 . Field 2 . Field 3 ....... Field 9 [return] Field 10 . Field 11.... .... Field 37 . Field 38...... Field 45 This should be simple, so I think I'm missing the point somewhere! Please describe an actual record. Emma on 31.07.2008 10:31, stephen_ball at stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com wrote: Hi Emma, note there can be more than one word required for each field required for layout, such as "nylon woven". The fields (there can be up to 9 populated with data) currently contain data layed out as: Czech, Slovakian, Polish, Hungarian, Turkish I need to take the word(s) from each field if populated (separated by bullet points) to lay them out as: Czech(1st field), Czech(2nd field), Czech(3rd field), Czech(4th field), Czech(5th field), Czech(6th field), Czech(7th field), Czech(8th field), Czech(9th field) Slovakian(1st field), Slovakian(2nd field), Slovakian(3rd field), Slovakian(4th field), Slovakian(5th field), Slovakian(6th field), Slovakian(7th field), Slovakian(8th field), Czech(9th field) Polish(1st field), Polish(2nd field), Polish(3rd field), Polish(4th field), Polish(5th field), Polish(6th field), Polish(7th field), Polish(from 8th field), Polish(9th field) Hung(1st field), Hung(2nd field), Hung(3rd field), Hung(4th field), Hung(5th field), Hung(6th field), Hung(7th field), Hung(8th field), Hung(9th field) Turk(1st field), Turk(from 2nd field), Turk(from 3rd field), Turk(from 4th field), Turk(from 5th field), Turk(from 6th field), Turk(from 7th field), Turk(from 8th field), Turk(from 9th field) Regards. -----Original Message----- From: Emma Glaisher [mailto:emma.glaisher@fourninety.com] Sent: 31 July 2008 10:13 To: stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com; data-users@emsoftware.com Subject: Re: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator Certainly. But can you just include a few records so we can see exactly where and when the fields start? For example, 'nylon woven' is not one word but 2. So I just need to be clear how your data is structured. on 31.07.2008 10:15, stephen_ball at stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com wrote: I am trying to use bullet point characters within a field which contains foreign language translations as a separator. example below: bavlna . bavlna . bawe<\#U0142>na . pamut . pamuk,nylon woven . nylon wav . nylon wen . nylon vew . naylon wev Rather than laying out the fields as they appear above, I need to place the first, second, third, fourth and fifth word of each field next to each other: e.g. bavlna nylon woven bavlna nylon wav Is there any statement which can be used to incorporate the first, second, third and fourth bullet points as separators? Regards, Stephen Ball. This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. 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Shore To Shore Your Global Source for Tags, Labels and Brand Packaging Solutions. www.shr2shr.com From stephen_ball at eu.shr2shr.com Thu Jul 31 05:31:58 2008 From: stephen_ball at eu.shr2shr.com (stephen_ball) Date: Thu Jul 31 09:39:12 2008 Subject: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006901c8f2f0$47bf4790$8120a8c0@STSUK.eu.shr2shr.com> Hi Emma, note there can be more than one word required for each field required for layout, such as "nylon woven". The fields (there can be up to 9 populated with data) currently contain data layed out as: Czech, Slovakian, Polish, Hungarian, Turkish I need to take the word(s) from each field if populated (separated by bullet points) to lay them out as: Czech(1st field), Czech(2nd field), Czech(3rd field), Czech(4th field), Czech(5th field), Czech(6th field), Czech(7th field), Czech(8th field), Czech(9th field) Slovakian(1st field), Slovakian(2nd field), Slovakian(3rd field), Slovakian(4th field), Slovakian(5th field), Slovakian(6th field), Slovakian(7th field), Slovakian(8th field), Czech(9th field) Polish(1st field), Polish(2nd field), Polish(3rd field), Polish(4th field), Polish(5th field), Polish(6th field), Polish(7th field), Polish(from 8th field), Polish(9th field) Hung(1st field), Hung(2nd field), Hung(3rd field), Hung(4th field), Hung(5th field), Hung(6th field), Hung(7th field), Hung(8th field), Hung(9th field) Turk(1st field), Turk(from 2nd field), Turk(from 3rd field), Turk(from 4th field), Turk(from 5th field), Turk(from 6th field), Turk(from 7th field), Turk(from 8th field), Turk(from 9th field) Regards. -----Original Message----- From: Emma Glaisher [mailto:emma.glaisher@fourninety.com] Sent: 31 July 2008 10:13 To: stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com; data-users@emsoftware.com Subject: Re: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator Certainly. But can you just include a few records so we can see exactly where and when the fields start? For example, 'nylon woven' is not one word but 2. So I just need to be clear how your data is structured. on 31.07.2008 10:15, stephen_ball at stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com wrote: I am trying to use bullet point characters within a field which contains foreign language translations as a separator. example below: bavlna . bavlna . bawe<\#U0142>na . pamut . pamuk,nylon woven . nylon wav . nylon wen . nylon vew . naylon wev Rather than laying out the fields as they appear above, I need to place the first, second, third, fourth and fifth word of each field next to each other: e.g. bavlna nylon woven bavlna nylon wav Is there any statement which can be used to incorporate the first, second, third and fourth bullet points as separators? Regards, Stephen Ball. This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. 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The right to monitor E-mail communications through our networks is reserved by us. Shore To Shore Your Global Source for Tags, Labels and Brand Packaging Solutions. www.shr2shr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080731/b2942bc3/attachment-0001.html From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com Thu Jul 31 06:44:59 2008 From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher) Date: Thu Jul 31 09:39:13 2008 Subject: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator In-Reply-To: <008001c8f2f6$12d2a350$8120a8c0@STSUK.eu.shr2shr.com> Message-ID: OK, now I understand! So each 'line' is a single field, but in that field the languages are separated by bullets. Try this: go into XData Preferences, Data, Field Delimiter. Select 'Custom' from the drop down menu and type in the bullet character used. That way you can treat the Czech as the first field, Slovakian as the 2nd etc. You would still have problems as you want to use data from each record, then go back to the beginning.... This can be done by reading records into an array, but I haven?t time right now to describe the process. Joe??? I think lateral thinking is called for and I need to get back to work! Sorry! on 31.07.2008 11:13, stephen_ball at stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com wrote: > Emma, > > example of actual fields below named FM1 and FM2 > > FM1 > bavlna . bavlna . bawe<\#U0142>na . pamut . pamuk > > FM2 > nylon woven . nylon wav . nylon wen . nylon vew . naylon wev > > Up to first bullet point of each field is Czech, up to second bullet > point of each field is Slovakian and so on... > > I need to extract data from each field > (Czech/Slovakian/Polish/Hungarian/Turkish) so they are positioned next > to each other. > Using fields above, this would be layed out as: > bavlna nylon woven *word(s) up to first bullet point of FM1 and FM2* > bavlna nylon wav *word(s) up to second bullet point of FM1 and FM2* > bawe<\#U0142>na nylon wen *word(s) up to third bullet point of FM1 and > FM2* > pamut nylon vew *word(s) up to fourth bullet point of FM1 and FM2* > pamuk naylon wev *word(s) after fourth point of FM1 and FM2* > > Stephen. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emma Glaisher [mailto:emma.glaisher@fourninety.com] > Sent: 31 July 2008 10:32 > To: stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com; data-users@emsoftware.com > Subject: Re: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator > > > OK, I'm being dense. Does one record contain: > > Czech(1st), Czech(2nd).... Czech(9th), Slovakian(1st)........ Turk(9th) > ? > > i.e. each record, or line, contains 45 fields, 9 each of 5 languages? > > So what you want to extract is: > Field 1 . Field 2 . Field 3 ....... Field 9 [return] > Field 10 . Field 11.... > .... > Field 37 . Field 38...... Field 45 > > This should be simple, so I think I'm missing the point somewhere! > Please describe an actual record. > > Emma > > > on 31.07.2008 10:31, stephen_ball at stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com wrote: > > > Hi Emma, > > note there can be more than one word required for each field required > for layout, such as "nylon woven". > The fields (there can be up to 9 populated with data) currently contain > data layed out as: > Czech, Slovakian, Polish, Hungarian, Turkish > > I need to take the word(s) from each field if populated (separated by > bullet points) to lay them out as: > Czech(1st field), Czech(2nd field), Czech(3rd field), Czech(4th field), > Czech(5th field), Czech(6th field), Czech(7th field), Czech(8th field), > Czech(9th field) > Slovakian(1st field), Slovakian(2nd field), Slovakian(3rd field), > Slovakian(4th field), Slovakian(5th field), Slovakian(6th field), > Slovakian(7th field), Slovakian(8th field), Czech(9th field) > Polish(1st field), Polish(2nd field), Polish(3rd field), Polish(4th > field), Polish(5th field), Polish(6th field), Polish(7th field), > Polish(from 8th field), Polish(9th field) > Hung(1st field), Hung(2nd field), Hung(3rd field), Hung(4th field), > Hung(5th field), Hung(6th field), Hung(7th field), Hung(8th field), > Hung(9th field) > Turk(1st field), Turk(from 2nd field), Turk(from 3rd field), Turk(from > 4th field), Turk(from 5th field), Turk(from 6th field), Turk(from 7th > field), Turk(from 8th field), Turk(from 9th field) > > Regards. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emma Glaisher [mailto:emma.glaisher@fourninety.com] > Sent: 31 July 2008 10:13 > To: stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com; data-users@emsoftware.com > Subject: Re: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator > > Certainly. But can you just include a few records so we can see exactly > where and when the fields start? For example, 'nylon woven' is not one > word but 2. So I just need to be clear how your data is structured. > > > on 31.07.2008 10:15, stephen_ball at stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com wrote: > > > I am trying to use bullet point characters within a field which > contains foreign language translations as a separator. > example below: > > bavlna . bavlna . bawe<\#U0142>na . pamut . pamuk,nylon woven . > nylon wav . nylon wen . nylon vew . naylon wev > > Rather than laying out the fields as they appear above, I need to place > the first, second, third, fourth and fifth word of each field next to > each other: > e.g. > bavlna nylon woven > bavlna nylon wav > Is there any statement which can be used to incorporate the first, > second, third and fourth bullet points as separators? > > Regards, > Stephen Ball. > > > This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended > recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and > confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies > destroyed. 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URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080731/ab85ffc3/attachment-0001.html From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com Thu Jul 31 10:49:35 2008 From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher) Date: Thu Jul 31 10:51:15 2008 Subject: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No, Joe, I don?t think so. It looks as if Stephen is using the word ?field? where we would use ?record?. Each record contains 5 ?fields?, separated by the bullet character. Field 1 is Czech, field 2 is Slovak, field 3 is Polish, field 4 is Hungarian, field 5 is Turkish. Stephen wants the Czech words together ? i.e. field 1 of each record, then the Slovak words ? i.e. field 2 of each record. That is why I thought he would need to use an array. Depending on how many records there are, of course. From his original mail I think there are only 9, in which case why use XData at all? How about 5 different prototypes, just changing the field number each time? Emma on 31.07.2008 15:41, Joe Mathia - Em Support at support@emsoftware.com wrote: > Hi Stephen and Emma, > > From what I understand, the data looks something like this (this is 3 records, > each containing 2 fields): > > bavlna . bavlna . bawe<\#U0142>na . pamut . pamuk,nylon woven . nylon wav . > nylon wen . nylon vew . naylon wev > bavlna1 . bavlna1 . bawe<\#U0142>na1 . pamut1 . pamuk1,nylon1woven . > nylon1wav . nylon1 wen . nylon1 vew . naylon1 wev > bavlna2 . bavlna2 . bawe<\#U0142>na2 . pamut2 . pamuk2,nylon woven2 . nylon > wav2 . nylon2 wen . nylon2 vew . naylon2 wev > > If this is the case, a simple prototype like this will do the trick: > > ?fields field1,field2? > ?set itemdelimiter to ?.?? > ?trim(item 1 of field1)? ?trim(item 1 of field2)?? > ?trim(item 2 of field1)? ?trim(item 2 of field2)?? > ?trim(item 3 of field1)? ?trim(item 3 of field2)?? > ?trim(item 4 of field1)? ?trim(item 4 of field2)?? > ?trim(item 5 of field1)? ?trim(item 5 of field2)?? > ? > > Have a look at the attached ? do an import from pasteboard. 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Name: XdataItemdelimiterDemo.qxp.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 13647 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080731/d9d0ff1a/XdataItemdelimiterDemo.qxp-0001.obj From support at emsoftware.com Thu Jul 31 10:56:35 2008 From: support at emsoftware.com (Joe Mathia - Em Support) Date: Thu Jul 31 10:58:09 2008 Subject: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Emma, Hmm, I took my data example from his first email, where he did have two comma-delimited fields. But, I could be wrong! Stephen, could you lease clarify? Regards, Joe Mathia Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com (+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210 On 7/31/08 9:49 AM, "Emma Glaisher" wrote: > No, Joe, I don?t think so. > > It looks as if Stephen is using the word ?field? where we would use ?record?. > > Each record contains 5 ?fields?, separated by the bullet character. Field 1 is > Czech, field 2 is Slovak, field 3 is Polish, field 4 is Hungarian, field 5 is > Turkish. > > Stephen wants the Czech words together ? i.e. field 1 of each record, then the > Slovak words ? i.e. field 2 of each record. > > That is why I thought he would need to use an array. Depending on how many > records there are, of course. From his original mail I think there are only 9, > in which case why use XData at all? > > How about 5 different prototypes, just changing the field number each time? > > Emma > > > > on 31.07.2008 15:41, Joe Mathia - Em Support at support@emsoftware.com wrote: > >> Hi Stephen and Emma, >> >> From what I understand, the data looks something like this (this is 3 >> records, each containing 2 fields): >> >> bavlna . bavlna . bawe<\#U0142>na . pamut . pamuk,nylon woven . nylon wav . >> nylon wen . nylon vew . naylon wev >> bavlna1 . bavlna1 . bawe<\#U0142>na1 . pamut1 . pamuk1,nylon1woven . >> nylon1wav . nylon1 wen . nylon1 vew . naylon1 wev >> bavlna2 . bavlna2 . bawe<\#U0142>na2 . pamut2 . pamuk2,nylon woven2 . nylon >> wav2 . nylon2 wen . nylon2 vew . naylon2 wev >> >> If this is the case, a simple prototype like this will do the trick: >> >> ?fields field1,field2? >> ?set itemdelimiter to ?.?? >> ?trim(item 1 of field1)? ?trim(item 1 of field2)?? >> ?trim(item 2 of field1)? ?trim(item 2 of field2)?? >> ?trim(item 3 of field1)? ?trim(item 3 of field2)?? >> ?trim(item 4 of field1)? ?trim(item 4 of field2)?? >> ?trim(item 5 of field1)? ?trim(item 5 of field2)?? >> ? >> >> Have a look at the attached ? do an import from pasteboard. Its a QX7 doc. >> Let me know if you need it in InDesign. >> >> Does this help? >> >> Regards, >> > > - - > Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered > in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, > Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ > > Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments > are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If > you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete > this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any > other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not > represent the views of the Company. > > Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet > e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any > claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us > or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080731/184ea71d/attachment.html From stephen_ball at eu.shr2shr.com Thu Jul 31 11:21:59 2008 From: stephen_ball at eu.shr2shr.com (stephen_ball) Date: Thu Jul 31 11:18:10 2008 Subject: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <009601c8f321$2d22b9e0$8120a8c0@STSUK.eu.shr2shr.com> Hi Emma / Joe, Using: ?set itemdelimiter to ?.?? ?trim(item 1 of field1)? ?trim(item 1 of field2)?? Will work for what I need as I now have an identifier for separation within the fields. Many thanks. Stephen. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Mathia - Em Support [mailto:support@emsoftware.com] Sent: 31 July 2008 15:57 To: Emma Glaisher; stephen_ball@eu.shr2shr.com; data-users@emsoftware.com Subject: Re: [EmData] Using characters within field as separator Hi Emma, Hmm, I took my data example from his first email, where he did have two comma-delimited fields. But, I could be wrong! Stephen, could you lease clarify? Regards, Joe Mathia Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com (+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210 On 7/31/08 9:49 AM, "Emma Glaisher" wrote: No, Joe, I don?t think so. It looks as if Stephen is using the word ?field? where we would use ?record?. Each record contains 5 ?fields?, separated by the bullet character. Field 1 is Czech, field 2 is Slovak, field 3 is Polish, field 4 is Hungarian, field 5 is Turkish. Stephen wants the Czech words together ? i.e. field 1 of each record, then the Slovak words ? i.e. field 2 of each record. That is why I thought he would need to use an array. Depending on how many records there are, of course. From his original mail I think there are only 9, in which case why use XData at all? How about 5 different prototypes, just changing the field number each time? Emma on 31.07.2008 15:41, Joe Mathia - Em Support at support@emsoftware.com wrote: Hi Stephen and Emma, >From what I understand, the data looks something like this (this is 3 records, each containing 2 fields): bavlna . bavlna . bawe<\#U0142>na . pamut . pamuk,nylon woven . nylon wav . nylon wen . nylon vew . naylon wev bavlna1 . bavlna1 . bawe<\#U0142>na1 . pamut1 . pamuk1,nylon1woven . nylon1wav . nylon1 wen . nylon1 vew . naylon1 wev bavlna2 . bavlna2 . bawe<\#U0142>na2 . pamut2 . pamuk2,nylon woven2 . nylon wav2 . nylon2 wen . nylon2 vew . naylon2 wev If this is the case, a simple prototype like this will do the trick: ?fields field1,field2? ?set itemdelimiter to ?.?? ?trim(item 1 of field1)? ?trim(item 1 of field2)?? ?trim(item 2 of field1)? ?trim(item 2 of field2)?? ?trim(item 3 of field1)? ?trim(item 3 of field2)?? ?trim(item 4 of field1)? ?trim(item 4 of field2)?? ?trim(item 5 of field1)? ?trim(item 5 of field2)?? ? Have a look at the attached ? do an import from pasteboard. 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