From memoxxxx at yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 19:08:45 2008 From: memoxxxx at yahoo.com (Guillermo J. Mendoza) Date: Sat Feb 23 19:22:22 2008 Subject: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Message-ID: <986006.23845.qm@web56901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello, My publishing company is building a yellow page-style phone book and we are testing InData for future purchase, we've seen it can dramatically reduce our production time... The "Creating a Company Phone List" chapter of the InData user guide was very helpful and gave us a start for building our statement. Our database has the following fields: COMPANY, CATEGORY, ADDRESS, TEL, CODE, and CITY. Our goal is to get something like this: -CATEGORY- CITY1 (CODE) COMPANY [Tab] TEL ADDRESS CITY2 (CODE) COMPANY [Tab] TEL ADDRESS CITY3 (CODE) COMPANY [Tab] TEL ADDRESS -CATEGORY- CITY1 (CODE) COMPANY [Tab] TEL ADDRESS CITY2 (CODE) COMPANY [Tab] TEL ADDRESS CITY3 (CODE) COMPANY [Tab] TEL ADDRESS Where CATEGORY has many companies in different cities inside of it. We came with the following statement: ?fields COMPANY, CATEGORY, ADDRESS, TEL, CODE, CITY? ?if CITY <> prev CITY??if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY??CATEGORY??endif?? ?CITY? (?CODE?)? ?endif??COMPANY?(tab)?TEL?? ?ADD?? # But with that statement we get gaps in the categories. We have tried many ways to to group the cities inside the categories correctly but the plugin does not seem to do it. Also tried: ?fields COMPANY, CATEGORY, ADDRESS, TEL, CODE, CITY? ?repeat while COMPANY<>prev COMPANY??CATEGORY?? ?CITY? (?CODE?)? ?COMPANY?(tab)?TEL?? ?ADD??read??end repeat?? # Are we missing something? can you help us? ____________________________________________________________________________________ ?Capacidad ilimitada de almacenamiento en tu correo! No te preocupes m?s por el espacio de tu cuenta con Correo Yahoo!: http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com Sun Feb 24 08:11:05 2008 From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher (Fourninety)) Date: Sun Feb 24 08:25:30 2008 Subject: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook References: <986006.23845.qm@web56901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87DCBE43E5529041AB7E2CD4C377EDCF17CAB4@ms-001-mail01.mediasquare.net> Without some sample data I can't be sure, but have you tried this: ?if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY??CATEGORY? ?endif??if CITY <> prev CITY??CITY? (?CODE?) ?endif??COMPANY?(tab)?TEL? ?ADDRESS? Of course your data will need to be sorted by first Category, second City, before you import. Your first statement only looked at 'Category' if the 'City' was new. So if the records went from a Baker in San Francisco to a Grocer in San Francisco, the change of category would be missed. The second statement would repeat the Category heading every time, as far as I can see. Sometimes it helps to draw a diagram, or write it down - I'm a word person rather than pictures, but probably most people would prefer a sort of flow diagram: 'If it's a new category we want to put that in, then if it's a new city we want to put that in, then we want company name and phone etc'. Hope that helps... - - Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not represent the views of the Company. Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080224/f408bf4d/attachment.html From memoxxxx at yahoo.com Sun Feb 24 13:22:17 2008 From: memoxxxx at yahoo.com (Guillermo J. Mendoza) Date: Sun Feb 24 13:35:45 2008 Subject: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Message-ID: <700742.44355.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Thanks for your quick reply Emma, I just tried your statement after resorting my data, and it seems better, but now, after a change of a category it dismisses the city if the records of the previous category are from only one particular city, and the records of the next category starts with records of that city. (see image http://tinyurl.com/2tzodh) My goal is to achieve something like this image: http://tinyurl.com/2sts88 (manually made for reference) Again, thanks in advance for your help... PS: i'm resending this email in plain format and without attachments Here's some sample data: COMPANY CATEGORY ADD TEL CODE CITY 3d Marine Agentes Aduanales y Mar?timos La Paragua 7416701 261 Maracaibo A Navas & Co CA Agentes Aduanales y Mar?timos Punto Fijo 2466970 269 Punto Fijo A.C. uno.com, CA Aire Acondicionado Av. 4 entre calle 69 y 70 7984223 261 Maracaibo A Quiroz y Asociados Asesores Econ?micos y Financieros Tierra Negra 7985840 261 Maracaibo Aba Mercado de Capitales Bancos El Milagro 7230813 261 Maracaibo 7620 Inversiones CA Cer?micas para Decoraci?n Tierra Negra 7976990 261 Maracaibo 3M Manufacturera Venezuela SA Cintas Diversas Tierra Negra 7979271 261 Maracaibo A2 Software CA Computaci?n Sta Mar?a 7592163 261 Maracaibo AB Construcci?n CA Constructoras La Florida 2456920 269 Punto Fijo A Que Tito SRL Electroauto Talleres y Repuestos Los Estanques 7358573 261 Maracaibo AA & A Representaciones SA Empacaduras y Sellos Mec?nicos para Autom?viles Las Delicias 7592091 261 Maracaibo AA & A Representaciones SRL Empacaduras y Sellos Mec?nicos para Autom?viles Las Delicias 7592091 261 Maracaibo A1 Imagen Promocional CA Exposiciones y Eventos Especiales Indio Mara 7592953 261 Maracaibo Abadia de Las Mercedes CA Funerarias Maracaibo 7931704 261 Maracaibo 1era Iglesia Presbiteriana Iglesias y Templos Religiosos Punto Fijo 2457445 269 Punto Fijo A & Suplait Importadores y Exportadores Cabimas 2510855 264 Cabimas 2 Media Internet y Sala de Navegaci?n Bella Vista 7926289 261 Maracaibo A & E Bussiness CA Internet y Sala de Navegaci?n Mara Nte 7578546 261 Maracaibo 925 Plata Joyer?as El Milagro 7933446 261 Maracaibo Abasto Dep?sito de Licores La Rosa Licores, Distribuidoras y F?bricas Dn Bosco 7938916 261 Maracaibo Abastecimientos del Zulia CA Maquinarias y Equipos para Panader?as El Amparo 7563190 261 Maracaibo A1 Imagen Promocional CA Organizaci?n de Fiestas y Eventos Indio Mara 7592953 261 Maracaibo A.R.L. Perforaciones CA Perforaci?n de Pozos Cl. 14 E/ Avs. 16 y 17, Sec. Sierra Maestra 7366272 261 Maracaibo A.R.L. Perforaciones CA Perforaci?n de Pozos Calle 14 entre Avenidas 16 y 17 7366272 261 Maracaibo A. J Inversiones Col, CA Pinturas y Lacas Av. Miranda 7970590 261 Ciudad Ojeda A J Inversiones CA Pinturas y Lacas Maracaibo 7781610 261 Maracaibo A1 Imagen Promocional CA Publicidad Indio Mara 7592953 261 Maracaibo 99.7 La Mega Estaci?n Radio Emisoras y Televisoras Bella Vista 7926941 261 Maracaibo 89.7 Fm Radio Emisoras y Televisoras Sta. B?rbara del Zulia 5554880 275 Sta. B?rbara del Zulia 1000 y Un Regalo Regalos Maracaibo 7232594 261 Maracaibo A E Controles CA Repuestos para Aire Acondicionado y Refrigeraci?n Maracaibo 7432355 261 Maracaibo AA Cond-Serca Repuestos para Aire Acondicionado y Refrigeraci?n Para?so 7595609 261 Maracaibo A H Instalaciones CA Seguridad Industrial Calle 71 7516335 261 Maracaibo A H Instalaciones CA Seguridad, Sistemas y Equipos Calle 71 7516335 261 Maracaibo Abasto Barrio Nuevo Supermercados Barrio Nuevo 3521142 267 Bachaquero Abasto El Porvenir Supermercados Cabimas 2415983 264 Cabimas Abasto El Inmigrante Supermercados Las Pulgas 7222648 261 Maracaibo Abasto Imperial Supermercados Veritas 7983734 261 Maracaibo Abasto La Bucanga Supermercados Mcdo De Las Pulgas 7224472 261 Maracaibo Abasto La Firma de Oro Supermercados Maracaibo 7239053 261 Maracaibo Abasto La Fuente Supermercados Dr Quintero 7985681 261 Maracaibo Abasto La Garza Blanca Supermercados 20 de Mayo 5551617 275 Sta. B?rbara del Zulia Aamovilnet Telecomunicaciones Maracaibo 7985284 261 Maracaibo A & L Distribuidores CA Tel?fonos Celulares, Accesorios Maracaibo 7213321 261 Maracaibo A G & T CA Topografos Km 3 via el Mojan 7414277 261 Maracaibo A G & T CA Topografos Km 3 via el Mojan 7414277 261 Maracaibo A/C Zulianisima de Transporte Transporte Av. 2 El Milagro 6629091 265 Maracaibo Abasto Centro Norte V?veres Maracaibo 7932784 261 Maracaibo 5 Estrellas CA Zapater?as Punto Fijo 2470308 269 Punto Fijo ----- Mensaje original ---- De: Emma Glaisher (Fourninety) Para: Guillermo J. Mendoza ; data-users@emsoftware.com Enviado: domingo, 24 de febrero, 2008 8:41:05 Asunto: RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Without some sample data I can't be sure, but have you tried this: ?if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY??CATEGORY? ?endif??if CITY <> prev CITY??CITY? (?CODE?) ?endif??COMPANY?(tab)?TEL? ?ADDRESS? Of course your data will need to be sorted by first Category, second City, before you import. Your first statement only looked at 'Category' if the 'City' was new. So if the records went from a Baker in San Francisco to a Grocer in San Francisco, the change of category would be missed. The second statement would repeat the Category heading every time, as far as I can see. Sometimes it helps to draw a diagram, or write it down - I'm a word person rather than pictures, but probably most people would prefer a sort of flow diagram: 'If it's a new category we want to put that in, then if it's a new city we want to put that in, then we want company name and phone etc'. Hope that helps... - - Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not represent the views of the Company. Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. ____________________________________________________________________________________ ?Capacidad ilimitada de almacenamiento en tu correo! No te preocupes m?s por el espacio de tu cuenta con Correo Yahoo!: http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ From cdey at bellind.com Mon Feb 25 10:41:05 2008 From: cdey at bellind.com (Cindy Dey) Date: Mon Feb 25 10:56:08 2008 Subject: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook In-Reply-To: <700742.44355.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, You can still use Emma's statement with a slight modification. Remove the if statement for the city and the city will print for every record instead of getting lost. ?fields COMPANY, CATEGORY, ADDRESS, TEL, CODE, CITY? ?if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY??CATEGORY?? ?endif? ?CITY? (?CODE?)? ?COMPANY?[tab]?TEL?? ?ADDRESS?? Cindy Dey Graphic Design Specialist Bell Industries 580 Yankee Doodle Road, Suite 1200 Eagan, MN 55121 651-203-2323 cdey@bellind.com -----Original Message----- From: data-users-bounces@emsoftware.com [mailto:data-users-bounces@emsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Guillermo J. Mendoza Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:22 PM To: Emma Glaisher (Fourninety); data-users@emsoftware.com Subject: Re: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Thanks for your quick reply Emma, I just tried your statement after resorting my data, and it seems better, but now, after a change of a category it dismisses the city if the records of the previous category are from only one particular city, and the records of the next category starts with records of that city. (see image http://tinyurl.com/2tzodh) My goal is to achieve something like this image: http://tinyurl.com/2sts88 (manually made for reference) Again, thanks in advance for your help... From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com Mon Feb 25 10:44:06 2008 From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher) Date: Mon Feb 25 10:57:42 2008 Subject: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: But he doesn't want city to print for every record - only when City changes, OR when Category changes. So I've sent him (seem to have dropped off list!) the following: ?if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY??CATEGORY? ?endif??if (CITY <> prev CITY) or (CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY)??CITY? (?CODE?) ?endif??COMPANY?(tab)?TEL? ?ADDRESS? on 25.02.2008 15:41, Cindy Dey at cdey@bellind.com wrote: > Hi, > You can still use Emma's statement with a slight modification. Remove the if > statement for the city and the city will print for every record instead of > getting lost. > > ?fields COMPANY, CATEGORY, ADDRESS, TEL, CODE, CITY? > ?if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY??CATEGORY?? > ?endif? > ?CITY? (?CODE?)? > ?COMPANY?[tab]?TEL?? > ?ADDRESS?? - - Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not represent the views of the Company. Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. From support at emsoftware.com Mon Feb 25 11:19:16 2008 From: support at emsoftware.com (Joe Mathia) Date: Mon Feb 25 11:32:48 2008 Subject: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook In-Reply-To: <700742.44355.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Guillermo, Thanks to Emma for a great reply! To get what youa re after, try replacing ?if category <> prev city??category?? ?endif? ?if city <> prev city??city?? ?endif? With ?if category <> prev city??category?? ?endif? ?if city <> prev city OR category <> prev category??city?? ?endif? Does this help? Regards, Joe Mathia Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com (+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210 On 2/24/08 12:22 PM, "Guillermo J. Mendoza" wrote: > Thanks for your quick reply Emma, > > > I just tried your statement after resorting my data, and it seems better, but > now, after a change of a category it dismisses the city if the records of the > previous category are from only one particular city, and the records of the > next category starts with records of that city. (see image > http://tinyurl.com/2tzodh) > > > > My goal is to achieve something like this image: http://tinyurl.com/2sts88 > (manually made for reference) > > > > Again, thanks in advance for your help... > > > PS: i'm resending this email in plain format and without attachments > > Here's some sample data: > > COMPANY CATEGORY ADD TEL CODE CITY > 3d Marine Agentes Aduanales y Mar?timos La Paragua 7416701 261 > Maracaibo > A Navas & Co CA Agentes Aduanales y Mar?timos Punto Fijo 2466970 > 269 Punto Fijo > A.C. uno.com, CA Aire Acondicionado Av. 4 entre calle 69 y 70 7984223 > 261 Maracaibo > A Quiroz y Asociados Asesores Econ?micos y Financieros Tierra Negra > 7985840 261 Maracaibo > Aba Mercado de Capitales Bancos El Milagro 7230813 261 > Maracaibo > 7620 Inversiones CA Cer?micas para Decoraci?n Tierra Negra 7976990 > 261 Maracaibo > 3M Manufacturera Venezuela SA Cintas Diversas Tierra Negra 7979271 > 261 Maracaibo > A2 Software CA Computaci?n Sta Mar?a 7592163 261 Maracaibo > AB Construcci?n CA Constructoras La Florida 2456920 269 Punto > Fijo > A Que Tito SRL Electroauto Talleres y Repuestos Los Estanques 7358573 > 261 Maracaibo > AA & A Representaciones SA Empacaduras y Sellos Mec?nicos para Autom?viles > Las Delicias 7592091 261 Maracaibo > AA & A Representaciones SRL Empacaduras y Sellos Mec?nicos para Autom?viles > Las Delicias 7592091 261 Maracaibo > A1 Imagen Promocional CA Exposiciones y Eventos Especiales Indio Mara > 7592953 261 Maracaibo > Abadia de Las Mercedes CA Funerarias Maracaibo 7931704 261 > Maracaibo > 1era Iglesia Presbiteriana Iglesias y Templos Religiosos Punto Fijo > 2457445 269 Punto Fijo > A & Suplait Importadores y Exportadores Cabimas 2510855 264 > Cabimas > 2 Media Internet y Sala de Navegaci?n Bella Vista 7926289 261 > Maracaibo > A & E Bussiness CA Internet y Sala de Navegaci?n Mara Nte 7578546 > 261 Maracaibo > 925 Plata Joyer?as El Milagro 7933446 261 Maracaibo > Abasto Dep?sito de Licores La Rosa Licores, Distribuidoras y F?bricas Dn > Bosco 7938916 261 Maracaibo > Abastecimientos del Zulia CA Maquinarias y Equipos para Panader?as El > Amparo 7563190 261 Maracaibo > A1 Imagen Promocional CA Organizaci?n de Fiestas y Eventos Indio Mara > 7592953 261 Maracaibo > A.R.L. Perforaciones CA Perforaci?n de Pozos Cl. 14 E/ Avs. 16 y 17, > Sec. Sierra Maestra 7366272 261 Maracaibo > A.R.L. Perforaciones CA Perforaci?n de Pozos Calle 14 entre Avenidas 16 > y 17 7366272 261 Maracaibo > A. J Inversiones Col, CA Pinturas y Lacas Av. Miranda 7970590 261 > Ciudad Ojeda > A J Inversiones CA Pinturas y Lacas Maracaibo 7781610 261 > Maracaibo > A1 Imagen Promocional CA Publicidad Indio Mara 7592953 261 > Maracaibo > 99.7 La Mega Estaci?n Radio Emisoras y Televisoras Bella Vista > 7926941 261 Maracaibo > 89.7 Fm Radio Emisoras y Televisoras Sta. B?rbara del Zulia 5554880 > 275 Sta. B?rbara del Zulia > 1000 y Un Regalo Regalos Maracaibo 7232594 261 Maracaibo > A E Controles CA Repuestos para Aire Acondicionado y Refrigeraci?n > Maracaibo 7432355 261 Maracaibo > AA Cond-Serca Repuestos para Aire Acondicionado y Refrigeraci?n Para?so > 7595609 261 Maracaibo > A H Instalaciones CA Seguridad Industrial Calle 71 7516335 261 > Maracaibo > A H Instalaciones CA Seguridad, Sistemas y Equipos Calle 71 7516335 > 261 Maracaibo > Abasto Barrio Nuevo Supermercados Barrio Nuevo 3521142 267 > Bachaquero > Abasto El Porvenir Supermercados Cabimas 2415983 264 Cabimas > Abasto El Inmigrante Supermercados Las Pulgas 7222648 261 > Maracaibo > Abasto Imperial Supermercados Veritas 7983734 261 Maracaibo > Abasto La Bucanga Supermercados Mcdo De Las Pulgas 7224472 261 > Maracaibo > Abasto La Firma de Oro Supermercados Maracaibo 7239053 261 > Maracaibo > Abasto La Fuente Supermercados Dr Quintero 7985681 261 > Maracaibo > Abasto La Garza Blanca Supermercados 20 de Mayo 5551617 275 > Sta. B?rbara del Zulia > Aamovilnet Telecomunicaciones Maracaibo 7985284 261 Maracaibo > A & L Distribuidores CA Tel?fonos Celulares, Accesorios Maracaibo > 7213321 261 Maracaibo > A G & T CA Topografos Km 3 via el Mojan 7414277 261 Maracaibo > A G & T CA Topografos Km 3 via el Mojan 7414277 261 Maracaibo > A/C Zulianisima de Transporte Transporte Av. 2 El Milagro 6629091 > 265 Maracaibo > Abasto Centro Norte V?veres Maracaibo 7932784 261 Maracaibo > 5 Estrellas CA Zapater?as Punto Fijo 2470308 269 Punto Fijo > > > > ----- Mensaje original ---- > > De: Emma Glaisher (Fourninety) > > Para: Guillermo J. Mendoza ; data-users@emsoftware.com > > Enviado: domingo, 24 de febrero, 2008 8:41:05 > > Asunto: RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook > > > > RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Without > some sample data I can't be sure, but have you tried this: > > > > ?if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY??CATEGORY? > > ?endif??if CITY <> prev CITY??CITY? (?CODE?) > > ?endif??COMPANY?(tab)?TEL? > > ?ADDRESS? > > > > > > Of course your data will need to be sorted by first Category, second City, > before you import. > > > > Your first statement only looked at 'Category' if the 'City' was new. So if > the records went from a Baker in San Francisco to a Grocer in San Francisco, > the change of category would be missed. > > > > The second statement would repeat the Category heading every time, as far as > I can see. > > > > Sometimes it helps to draw a diagram, or write it down - I'm a word person > rather than pictures, but probably most people would prefer a sort of flow > diagram: 'If it's a new category we want to put that in, then if it's a new > city we want to put that in, then we want company name and phone etc'. > > > > Hope that helps... > > > > - - > > Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. > Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence > Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ > > > > Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments > are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If > you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete > this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any > other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not > represent the views of the Company. > > > > Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet > e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any > claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us > or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > ______ > ?Capacidad ilimitada de almacenamiento en tu correo! > No te preocupes m?s por el espacio de tu cuenta con Correo Yahoo!: > http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Data-users mailing list > Data-users@emsoftware.com > http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users > From memoxxxx at yahoo.com Mon Feb 25 15:52:28 2008 From: memoxxxx at yahoo.com (Guillermo J. Mendoza) Date: Mon Feb 25 16:05:58 2008 Subject: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Message-ID: <323301.22392.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Thanks to all for your great support... Emma's last statement did the job perfectly... :D Hope that this will also help more future users... ----- Mensaje original ---- De: Emma Glaisher (Fourninety) Para: Guillermo J. Mendoza Enviado: lunes, 25 de febrero, 2008 2:39:22 Asunto: RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Good point! That's the danger of doing these things in your head! I may be busy at work today, if not I'll try with your data. Otherwise, see if this works: ?if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY??CATEGORY? ?endif??if (CITY <> prev CITY) or (CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY)??CITY? (?CODE?) ?endif??COMPANY?(tab)?TEL? ?ADDRESS? I've added an extra 'OR' condition so that when we start a new category the city name should go in regardless of the previous city. I love XData, and have written some horribly complex prototypes! It's amazing what it can do but the logic can get scary, and sometimes I go back to it and have no idea what I've done! Commenting and laying it out clearly, more like a program, can help. I often put the purely XData bits in a different colour to the bits which will actually print. (XData is the Quark version, but it is identical to InData, and you can actually copy them over, with a bit of re-formatting!). - - Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not represent the views of the Company. Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. ____________________________________________________________________________________ ?Capacidad ilimitada de almacenamiento en tu correo! No te preocupes m?s por el espacio de tu cuenta con Correo Yahoo!: http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080225/073ed411/attachment.html From mark.merner at wwoffset.com Wed Feb 27 15:50:52 2008 From: mark.merner at wwoffset.com (Mark Merner) Date: Wed Feb 27 16:04:58 2008 Subject: [EmData] only inline photos? Message-ID: <200802271450.53061.mark.merner@wwoffset.com> Hi, I'm new to xdata and quark. I want to have a text box on top of my picture box, all inside the text box with the data fields. I created a text box on a picture box, group them, cut then pasted in to the text (prototype?) box. But when I import the data it says, "picture box must be anchored" or something on xdata 7.3.0.5, xdata 7.3.1b9 says "only inline boxes are support currently." so is any of this possible some other way, or will it be supported soon? thanks. -- Mark Merner Wisconsin Web Offset, LLC. (262) 395-2000 From support at emsoftware.com Thu Feb 28 08:14:04 2008 From: support at emsoftware.com (Joe Mathia) Date: Thu Feb 28 08:27:50 2008 Subject: [EmData] only inline photos? In-Reply-To: <200802271450.53061.mark.merner@wwoffset.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, Before the most recent betas, Xdata did not support anchored text boxes, only anchored picture boxes. So this is welcome new functionality. Unfortunately, though, anchored groups are not yet supported, and I'm not sure whether this functionality is anywhere on the horizon. If you can send me a mock-up of what you are trying to accomplish, as well as your document/prototype and some data, I'll see if there are any other ways to get what you are after. Please zip or stuff your files before emailing. Regards, Joe Mathia Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com (+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210 On 2/27/08 2:50 PM, "Mark Merner" wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to xdata and quark. I want to have a text box on top of my picture > box, all inside the text box with the data fields. I created a text box on a > picture box, group them, cut then pasted in to the text (prototype?) box. > > But when I import the data it says, "picture box must be anchored" or > something on xdata 7.3.0.5, > > xdata 7.3.1b9 says "only inline boxes are support currently." > > so is any of this possible some other way, or will it be supported soon? > > thanks. > > > > -- > Mark Merner > Wisconsin Web Offset, LLC. > (262) 395-2000 > _______________________________________________ > Data-users mailing list > Data-users@emsoftware.com > http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users > From RStoddart at Comcast.net Thu Feb 28 10:41:52 2008 From: RStoddart at Comcast.net (RStoddart@Comcast) Date: Thu Feb 28 10:55:06 2008 Subject: [EmData] unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <20080228132750.63D4446BEDF@emsoftware.com> References: <20080228132750.63D4446BEDF@emsoftware.com> Message-ID: <014401c87a20$71479d40$6401a8c0@OFFICECOMPUTER> -----Original Message----- From: data-users-bounces@emsoftware.com [mailto:data-users-bounces@emsoftware.com] On Behalf Of data-users-request@emsoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:28 AM To: data-users@emsoftware.com Subject: Data-users Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 Send Data-users mailing list submissions to data-users@emsoftware.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to data-users-request@emsoftware.com You can reach the person managing the list at data-users-owner@emsoftware.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Data-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook (Cindy Dey) 2. Re: Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook (Emma Glaisher) 3. Re: Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook (Joe Mathia) 4. Re: Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook (Guillermo J. Mendoza) 5. only inline photos? (Mark Merner) 6. Re: only inline photos? (Joe Mathia) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:41:05 -0500 From: "Cindy Dey" Subject: RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook To: "Guillermo J. Mendoza" Cc: data-users@emsoftware.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, You can still use Emma's statement with a slight modification. Remove the if statement for the city and the city will print for every record instead of getting lost. +fields COMPANY, CATEGORY, ADDRESS, TEL, CODE, CITY6 +if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY;+CATEGORY;6 +endif6 +CITY; (+CODE;)6 +COMPANY;[tab]+TEL;6 +ADDRESS;6 Cindy Dey Graphic Design Specialist Bell Industries 580 Yankee Doodle Road, Suite 1200 Eagan, MN 55121 651-203-2323 cdey@bellind.com -----Original Message----- From: data-users-bounces@emsoftware.com [mailto:data-users-bounces@emsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Guillermo J. Mendoza Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:22 PM To: Emma Glaisher (Fourninety); data-users@emsoftware.com Subject: Re: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Thanks for your quick reply Emma, I just tried your statement after resorting my data, and it seems better, but now, after a change of a category it dismisses the city if the records of the previous category are from only one particular city, and the records of the next category starts with records of that city. (see image http://tinyurl.com/2tzodh) My goal is to achieve something like this image: http://tinyurl.com/2sts88 (manually made for reference) Again, thanks in advance for your help... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:44:06 +0000 From: Emma Glaisher Subject: Re: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook To: Cindy Dey , "Guillermo J. Mendoza" Cc: data-users@emsoftware.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" But he doesn't want city to print for every record - only when City changes, OR when Category changes. So I've sent him (seem to have dropped off list!) the following: +if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY;+CATEGORY; +endif;+if (CITY <> prev CITY) or (CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY);+CITY; (+CODE;) +endif;+COMPANY;(tab)+TEL; +ADDRESS; on 25.02.2008 15:41, Cindy Dey at cdey@bellind.com wrote: > Hi, > You can still use Emma's statement with a slight modification. Remove the if > statement for the city and the city will print for every record instead of > getting lost. > > +fields COMPANY, CATEGORY, ADDRESS, TEL, CODE, CITY6 > +if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY;+CATEGORY;6 > +endif6 > +CITY; (+CODE;)6 > +COMPANY;[tab]+TEL;6 > +ADDRESS;6 - - Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not represent the views of the Company. Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:19:16 -0600 From: Joe Mathia Subject: Re: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook To: "Guillermo J. Mendoza" , "Emma Glaisher (Fourninety)" , Cc: Joe Mathia Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Hi Guillermo, Thanks to Emma for a great reply! To get what youa re after, try replacing +if category <> prev city;+category;6 +endif; +if city <> prev city;+city;6 +endif; With +if category <> prev city;+category;6 +endif; +if city <> prev city OR category <> prev category;+city;6 +endif; Does this help? Regards, Joe Mathia Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com (+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210 On 2/24/08 12:22 PM, "Guillermo J. Mendoza" wrote: > Thanks for your quick reply Emma, > > > I just tried your statement after resorting my data, and it seems better, but > now, after a change of a category it dismisses the city if the records of the > previous category are from only one particular city, and the records of the > next category starts with records of that city. (see image > http://tinyurl.com/2tzodh) > > > > My goal is to achieve something like this image: http://tinyurl.com/2sts88 > (manually made for reference) > > > > Again, thanks in advance for your help... > > > PS: i'm resending this email in plain format and without attachments > > Here's some sample data: > > COMPANY CATEGORY ADD TEL CODE CITY > 3d Marine Agentes Aduanales y Marmtimos La Paragua 7416701 261 > Maracaibo > A Navas & Co CA Agentes Aduanales y Marmtimos Punto Fijo 2466970 > 269 Punto Fijo > A.C. uno.com, CA Aire Acondicionado Av. 4 entre calle 69 y 70 7984223 > 261 Maracaibo > A Quiroz y Asociados Asesores Econsmicos y Financieros Tierra Negra > 7985840 261 Maracaibo > Aba Mercado de Capitales Bancos El Milagro 7230813 261 > Maracaibo > 7620 Inversiones CA Ceramicas para Decoracisn Tierra Negra 7976990 > 261 Maracaibo > 3M Manufacturera Venezuela SA Cintas Diversas Tierra Negra 7979271 > 261 Maracaibo > A2 Software CA Computacisn Sta Marma 7592163 261 Maracaibo > AB Construccisn CA Constructoras La Florida 2456920 269 Punto > Fijo > A Que Tito SRL Electroauto Talleres y Repuestos Los Estanques 7358573 > 261 Maracaibo > AA & A Representaciones SA Empacaduras y Sellos Mecanicos para Automsviles > Las Delicias 7592091 261 Maracaibo > AA & A Representaciones SRL Empacaduras y Sellos Mecanicos para Automsviles > Las Delicias 7592091 261 Maracaibo > A1 Imagen Promocional CA Exposiciones y Eventos Especiales Indio Mara > 7592953 261 Maracaibo > Abadia de Las Mercedes CA Funerarias Maracaibo 7931704 261 > Maracaibo > 1era Iglesia Presbiteriana Iglesias y Templos Religiosos Punto Fijo > 2457445 269 Punto Fijo > A & Suplait Importadores y Exportadores Cabimas 2510855 264 > Cabimas > 2 Media Internet y Sala de Navegacisn Bella Vista 7926289 261 > Maracaibo > A & E Bussiness CA Internet y Sala de Navegacisn Mara Nte 7578546 > 261 Maracaibo > 925 Plata Joyermas El Milagro 7933446 261 Maracaibo > Abasto Depssito de Licores La Rosa Licores, Distribuidoras y Fabricas Dn > Bosco 7938916 261 Maracaibo > Abastecimientos del Zulia CA Maquinarias y Equipos para Panadermas El > Amparo 7563190 261 Maracaibo > A1 Imagen Promocional CA Organizacisn de Fiestas y Eventos Indio Mara > 7592953 261 Maracaibo > A.R.L. Perforaciones CA Perforacisn de Pozos Cl. 14 E/ Avs. 16 y 17, > Sec. Sierra Maestra 7366272 261 Maracaibo > A.R.L. Perforaciones CA Perforacisn de Pozos Calle 14 entre Avenidas 16 > y 17 7366272 261 Maracaibo > A. J Inversiones Col, CA Pinturas y Lacas Av. Miranda 7970590 261 > Ciudad Ojeda > A J Inversiones CA Pinturas y Lacas Maracaibo 7781610 261 > Maracaibo > A1 Imagen Promocional CA Publicidad Indio Mara 7592953 261 > Maracaibo > 99.7 La Mega Estacisn Radio Emisoras y Televisoras Bella Vista > 7926941 261 Maracaibo > 89.7 Fm Radio Emisoras y Televisoras Sta. Barbara del Zulia 5554880 > 275 Sta. Barbara del Zulia > 1000 y Un Regalo Regalos Maracaibo 7232594 261 Maracaibo > A E Controles CA Repuestos para Aire Acondicionado y Refrigeracisn > Maracaibo 7432355 261 Maracaibo > AA Cond-Serca Repuestos para Aire Acondicionado y Refrigeracisn Paramso > 7595609 261 Maracaibo > A H Instalaciones CA Seguridad Industrial Calle 71 7516335 261 > Maracaibo > A H Instalaciones CA Seguridad, Sistemas y Equipos Calle 71 7516335 > 261 Maracaibo > Abasto Barrio Nuevo Supermercados Barrio Nuevo 3521142 267 > Bachaquero > Abasto El Porvenir Supermercados Cabimas 2415983 264 Cabimas > Abasto El Inmigrante Supermercados Las Pulgas 7222648 261 > Maracaibo > Abasto Imperial Supermercados Veritas 7983734 261 Maracaibo > Abasto La Bucanga Supermercados Mcdo De Las Pulgas 7224472 261 > Maracaibo > Abasto La Firma de Oro Supermercados Maracaibo 7239053 261 > Maracaibo > Abasto La Fuente Supermercados Dr Quintero 7985681 261 > Maracaibo > Abasto La Garza Blanca Supermercados 20 de Mayo 5551617 275 > Sta. Barbara del Zulia > Aamovilnet Telecomunicaciones Maracaibo 7985284 261 Maracaibo > A & L Distribuidores CA Telifonos Celulares, Accesorios Maracaibo > 7213321 261 Maracaibo > A G & T CA Topografos Km 3 via el Mojan 7414277 261 Maracaibo > A G & T CA Topografos Km 3 via el Mojan 7414277 261 Maracaibo > A/C Zulianisima de Transporte Transporte Av. 2 El Milagro 6629091 > 265 Maracaibo > Abasto Centro Norte Vmveres Maracaibo 7932784 261 Maracaibo > 5 Estrellas CA Zapatermas Punto Fijo 2470308 269 Punto Fijo > > > > ----- Mensaje original ---- > > De: Emma Glaisher (Fourninety) > > Para: Guillermo J. Mendoza ; data-users@emsoftware.com > > Enviado: domingo, 24 de febrero, 2008 8:41:05 > > Asunto: RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook > > > > RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Without > some sample data I can't be sure, but have you tried this: > > > > +if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY;+CATEGORY; > > +endif;+if CITY <> prev CITY;+CITY; (+CODE;) > > +endif;+COMPANY;(tab)+TEL; > > +ADDRESS; > > > > > > Of course your data will need to be sorted by first Category, second City, > before you import. > > > > Your first statement only looked at 'Category' if the 'City' was new. So if > the records went from a Baker in San Francisco to a Grocer in San Francisco, > the change of category would be missed. > > > > The second statement would repeat the Category heading every time, as far as > I can see. > > > > Sometimes it helps to draw a diagram, or write it down - I'm a word person > rather than pictures, but probably most people would prefer a sort of flow > diagram: 'If it's a new category we want to put that in, then if it's a new > city we want to put that in, then we want company name and phone etc'. > > > > Hope that helps... > > > > - - > > Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. > Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence > Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ > > > > Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments > are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If > you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete > this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any > other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not > represent the views of the Company. > > > > Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet > e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any > claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us > or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ __ > ______ > !Capacidad ilimitada de almacenamiento en tu correo! > No te preocupes mas por el espacio de tu cuenta con Correo Yahoo!: > http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Data-users mailing list > Data-users@emsoftware.com > http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:52:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Guillermo J. Mendoza" Subject: Re: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook To: "Emma Glaisher (Fourninety)" , data-users@emsoftware.com Message-ID: <323301.22392.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks to all for your great support... Emma's last statement did the job perfectly... :D Hope that this will also help more future users... ----- Mensaje original ---- De: Emma Glaisher (Fourninety) Para: Guillermo J. Mendoza Enviado: lunes, 25 de febrero, 2008 2:39:22 Asunto: RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook RE: [EmData] Grouping fields inside fields on a phonebook Good point! That's the danger of doing these things in your head! I may be busy at work today, if not I'll try with your data. Otherwise, see if this works: B+if CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORYB;B+CATEGORYB; B+endifB;B+if (CITY <> prev CITY) or (CATEGORY <> prev CATEGORY)B;B+CITYB; (B+CODEB;) B+endifB;B+COMPANYB;(tab)B+TELB; B+ADDRESSB; I've added an extra 'OR' condition so that when we start a new category the city name should go in regardless of the previous city. I love XData, and have written some horribly complex prototypes! It's amazing what it can do but the logic can get scary, and sometimes I go back to it and have no idea what I've done! Commenting and laying it out clearly, more like a program, can help. I often put the purely XData bits in a different colour to the bits which will actually print. (XData is the Quark version, but it is identical to InData, and you can actually copy them over, with a bit of re-formatting!). - - Fourninety Limited, a member company of the Media Square plc group. Registered in England No. 3737606. Registered address Clarence Mill, Clarence Road, Bollington, Cheshire. SK10 5JZ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and any attachments are confidential. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and delete this document. The contents on this document must not be disclosed to any other person nor may any copies be taken. The views of the author may not represent the views of the Company. Security Warning: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. All liability for any claims arising as a result of using this medium to transmit information by us or to us is excluded to the extent permitted by law. ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ B!Capacidad ilimitada de almacenamiento en tu correo! No te preocupes mC!s por el espacio de tu cuenta con Correo Yahoo!: http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emsoftware.com/pipermail/data-users/attachments/20080225/073ed411/att achment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:50:52 -0600 From: Mark Merner Subject: [EmData] only inline photos? To: data-users@emsoftware.com Message-ID: <200802271450.53061.mark.merner@wwoffset.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I'm new to xdata and quark. I want to have a text box on top of my picture box, all inside the text box with the data fields. I created a text box on a picture box, group them, cut then pasted in to the text (prototype?) box. But when I import the data it says, "picture box must be anchored" or something on xdata 7.3.0.5, xdata 7.3.1b9 says "only inline boxes are support currently." so is any of this possible some other way, or will it be supported soon? thanks. -- Mark Merner Wisconsin Web Offset, LLC. (262) 395-2000 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:14:04 -0600 From: Joe Mathia Subject: Re: [EmData] only inline photos? To: Mark Merner , Cc: Joe Mathia Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Mark, Before the most recent betas, Xdata did not support anchored text boxes, only anchored picture boxes. So this is welcome new functionality. Unfortunately, though, anchored groups are not yet supported, and I'm not sure whether this functionality is anywhere on the horizon. If you can send me a mock-up of what you are trying to accomplish, as well as your document/prototype and some data, I'll see if there are any other ways to get what you are after. Please zip or stuff your files before emailing. Regards, Joe Mathia Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com (+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210 On 2/27/08 2:50 PM, "Mark Merner" wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to xdata and quark. I want to have a text box on top of my picture > box, all inside the text box with the data fields. I created a text box on a > picture box, group them, cut then pasted in to the text (prototype?) box. > > But when I import the data it says, "picture box must be anchored" or > something on xdata 7.3.0.5, > > xdata 7.3.1b9 says "only inline boxes are support currently." > > so is any of this possible some other way, or will it be supported soon? > > thanks. > > > > -- > Mark Merner > Wisconsin Web Offset, LLC. > (262) 395-2000 > _______________________________________________ > Data-users mailing list > Data-users@emsoftware.com > http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Data-users mailing list Data-users@emsoftware.com http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users End of Data-users Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 *****************************************