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From andrewb at ch1.com.au  Tue Jul 11 20:10:28 2006
From: andrewb at ch1.com.au (Andrew Bischoff)
Date: Tue Jul 11 20:11:32 2006
Subject: [EmData] Paragraph Rules  -COLOR
Message-ID: <B42A25EE0EFF244DB89B69FFAF6304910CD6E3@SERVER1.Interprise.local>

Hi Group,
 
Does anyone know of a way to set the colors of a paragraph rule using
Indata?
 
Currently my prototype uses 1 of 6 codes that have different colors, 
but i want to increase this to 100 colors, which would mean 
my prototype would end up several pages long.
 
 
 
Andrew Bischoff
Creative Director
Interprise Pty Ltd
27 Gilbert St, Adelaide 5000
p |  8212 9066
f  |  8212 8166
m|  0416 166 978
 
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From support at emsoftware.com  Wed Jul 12 10:18:52 2006
From: support at emsoftware.com (Em Software Support)
Date: Wed Jul 12 10:19:49 2006
Subject: [EmData] Paragraph Rules  -COLOR
In-Reply-To: <B42A25EE0EFF244DB89B69FFAF6304910CD6E3@SERVER1.Interprise.local>
Message-ID: <C0DA6EFC.1C201%support@emsoftware.com>

Hi Andrew,

I?m afraid there is no way to access swatches directly with InData, so you
will have to set up conditionals for each of your colors.

Regards,

Joe Mathia
Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com
(+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210


On 7/11/06 7:10 PM, "Andrew Bischoff" <andrewb@ch1.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Group,
>  
> Does anyone know of a way to set the colors of a paragraph rule using Indata?
>  
> Currently my prototype uses 1 of 6 codes that have different colors,
> but i want to increase this to 100 colors, which would mean
> my prototype would end up several pages long.
>  
>  
>  
> Andrew Bischoff
> Creative Director
> Interprise Pty Ltd
> 27 Gilbert St, Adelaide 5000
> p |  8212 9066
> f  |  8212 8166
> m|  0416 166 978
>  
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Data-users mailing list
> Data-users@emsoftware.com
> http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users
> 


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From: support at emsoftware.com (Em Software Support)
Date: Wed Jul 12 17:53:33 2006
Subject: [EmData] Paragraph Rules  -COLOR
In-Reply-To: <C0DAB859.1C22B%support@emsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <C0DAD956.1C235%support@emsoftware.com>

(Data-Users, I will send the attachment on request)

On 7/12/06 2:31 PM, "Em Software Support" <support@emsoftware.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
> 
> It turns out that I spoke too soon.  Our curiosity aroused, the developers and
> I have been banging on this one a bit.
> 
> You can actually use InDesign tags called by a ?put styled? statement to make
> this happen.  Please have a look at the attached demo.
> 
> You need to have a default rule applied to the paragraph containing the put
> styled statement.  You?ll also need to have all of your colors defined within
> the document.  The ?& return? is necessary to lock in the paragraph settings
> (see page 144 of the InData2UserGuide.pdf).
> 
> Does this help?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Joe Mathia
> Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com
> (+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210
> 
> 
> On 7/11/06 7:10 PM, "Andrew Bischoff" <andrewb@ch1.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Group,
>>  
>> Does anyone know of a way to set the colors of a paragraph rule using Indata?
>>  
>> Currently my prototype uses 1 of 6 codes that have different colors,
>> but i want to increase this to 100 colors, which would mean
>> my prototype would end up several pages long.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Andrew Bischoff
>> Creative Director
>> Interprise Pty Ltd
>> 27 Gilbert St, Adelaide 5000
>> p |  8212 9066
>> f  |  8212 8166
>> m|  0416 166 978
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Data-users mailing list
>> Data-users@emsoftware.com
>> http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users
>> 
> 


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From casey.wilkes at canterbury.ac.nz  Mon Jul 24 02:51:28 2006
From: casey.wilkes at canterbury.ac.nz (csw57)
Date: Mon Jul 24 02:53:20 2006
Subject: [EmData] More than next / prev
Message-ID: <C0EAC730.113C%casey.wilkes@canterbury.ac.nz>

Hi everyone,

I've come across a problem that requires me to compare with more than just
the next record.  Does anyone know if there is a way of doing this? Ideally
something like:
    next(2) fieldName
would return the value of fieldName from the record that is two ahead of the
current record.

Cheers,

Casey


From support at emsoftware.com  Mon Jul 24 07:53:50 2006
From: support at emsoftware.com (Em Software Support)
Date: Mon Jul 24 07:55:39 2006
Subject: [EmData] More than next / prev
In-Reply-To: <C0EAC730.113C%casey.wilkes@canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <C0EA1F00.1C3A2%support@emsoftware.com>

Hi Casey,

To do this, you can read as many records as you need to work with into an
array, even the entire data if you have enough memory (be sure to set the
Maximum Length of Variables in Xdata>>Preferences>>General to a sufficiently
high value).  This allows you to look at any field in any record in the
data, set records multiple times, and set the data in any order that you
like.

I am attaching a small demo to illustrate this concept.

Does this help?


Regards,

Joe Mathia
Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com
(+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210



On 7/24/06 1:51 AM, "csw57" <casey.wilkes@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I've come across a problem that requires me to compare with more than just
> the next record.  Does anyone know if there is a way of doing this? Ideally
> something like:
>   next(2) fieldName
> would return the value of fieldName from the record that is two ahead of the
> current record.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Casey
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Data-users mailing list
> Data-users@emsoftware.com
> http://mail.emsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/data-users
> 
> 

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From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com  Mon Jul 24 08:15:49 2006
From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher)
Date: Mon Jul 24 08:17:45 2006
Subject: [EmData] More than next / prev
In-Reply-To: <C0EA1F00.1C3A2%support@emsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <C0EA7885.2B89%emma.glaisher@fourninety.com>

Joe, this is fantastic! I still can't trace this in the manual, which I
thought I knew well.

I'm filing your example away for future reference!
> 
> To do this, you can read as many records as you need to work with into an
> array, even the entire data if you have enough memory (be sure to set the
> Maximum Length of Variables in Xdata>>Preferences>>General to a sufficiently
> high value).  This allows you to look at any field in any record in the
> data, set records multiple times, and set the data in any order that you
> like.
> 



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From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com  Thu Jul 27 06:11:11 2006
From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher)
Date: Thu Jul 27 06:13:40 2006
Subject: [EmData] Data/Catalog - extracting page numbers
In-Reply-To: <C0EA1F00.1C3A2%support@emsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <C0EE4FCF.2BBB%emma.glaisher@fourninety.com>

Hi,

I have a price list, 300+ pages, which I can generate using XData. I have
put XCatalog links in on the actual prices, in case they decide to change
the prices at the last minute.

I also have to extract an index from this - but can't work out how to make
this work. (I know Quark has an indexing facility, but I have never used it
[blush] and would rather stick with what I know.)

The folio box holds an automatic <#> page number. I tried making it a
global, but couldn't work out what to key it to. Then I tried inserting an
invisible <#> at the end of each line, keyed to the product number, but
XCatalog doesn't seem to recognise the actual numbers when generated this
way.

I feel as it there's something obvious I've forgotten . .. or perhaps I
should dig out my Quark manuals?

Thanks for any light anyone can shine on this!

Emma



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From support at emsoftware.com  Thu Jul 27 10:08:33 2006
From: support at emsoftware.com (Em Software Support)
Date: Thu Jul 27 10:10:36 2006
Subject: [EmData] Data/Catalog - extracting page numbers
In-Reply-To: <C0EE4FCF.2BBB%emma.glaisher@fourninety.com>
Message-ID: <C0EE3311.1C4B3%support@emsoftware.com>

Hi Emma,

The trick is to add a field to your data descriptor to hold the page number,
and to qualify it with the [#] qualifier.  For example:

{tab}RecordID[K]{tab}Name{tab}Phone{tab}PageNbr[#]

When you update your data (or create a new data file, the page numbers are
pushed out to this field.  If an item appears on multiple pages, the field
will be populated with the numbers of all of the pages on which the item
appears.  This is briefly discussed on page 32 of the Xcatalog6-4 Users
guide.

Does this help?

Regards,

Joe Mathia
Em Software Support / support@emsoftware.com / www.emsoftware.com
(+1) 740 284 1010, fax (+1) 740 284 1210


On 7/27/06 5:11 AM, "Emma Glaisher" <emma.glaisher@fourninety.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a price list, 300+ pages, which I can generate using XData. I have
> put XCatalog links in on the actual prices, in case they decide to change
> the prices at the last minute.
> 
> I also have to extract an index from this - but can't work out how to make
> this work. (I know Quark has an indexing facility, but I have never used it
> [blush] and would rather stick with what I know.)
> 
> The folio box holds an automatic <#> page number. I tried making it a
> global, but couldn't work out what to key it to. Then I tried inserting an
> invisible <#> at the end of each line, keyed to the product number, but
> XCatalog doesn't seem to recognise the actual numbers when generated this
> way.
> 
> I feel as it there's something obvious I've forgotten . .. or perhaps I
> should dig out my Quark manuals?
> 
> Thanks for any light anyone can shine on this!
> 
> Emma
> 
> 
> 
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From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com  Thu Jul 27 11:12:10 2006
From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher)
Date: Thu Jul 27 11:14:14 2006
Subject: [EmData] Data/Catalog - extracting page numbers
In-Reply-To: <C0EE3311.1C4B3%support@emsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <C0EE965A.2BD4%emma.glaisher@fourninety.com>

> The trick is to add a field to your data descriptor to hold the page number,
> and to qualify it with the [#] qualifier.  For example:
> 
> {tab}RecordID[K]{tab}Name{tab}Phone{tab}PageNbr[#]
> 
> When you update your data (or create a new data file, the page numbers are
> pushed out to this field.  If an item appears on multiple pages, the field
> will be populated with the numbers of all of the pages on which the item
> appears.  This is briefly discussed on page 32 of the Xcatalog6-4 Users
> guide.

Thanks - I missed that, it sure was brief! But I've implemented it and am
still having trouble. I can update the database by updating by current key
value, but that takes about 10 seconds. If I try and do it by box or by
spread, nothing happens. As I have over 9000 items, I can't do each one by
hand!

For now, I'll have to go with the Quark List option, which at least enables
me to XCatalog the numbers back into Filemaker.
-- 
Emma Glaisher
Fourninety Ltd


- Sorry for double posting, if it comes through twice....



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From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com  Thu Jul 27 11:18:51 2006
From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher)
Date: Thu Jul 27 11:20:57 2006
Subject: [EmData] Extracting page numbers hang on....
In-Reply-To: <C0EE965A.2BD4%emma.glaisher@fourninety.com>
Message-ID: <C0EE97EB.2BD7%emma.glaisher@fourninety.com>

Ignore my previous posting. I can see why it takes a while - it has to look
through the entire document for instances of the same order code. They DO
occur more than once so that is good.

Also, I have now got it to update current spread, but current spread is page
17, and filemaker is inserting 17 into every page field (which will take a
while....) which doesn't seem right. I'll let you know what happens next,
but it may be tomorrow at this rate!

Emma



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From emma.glaisher at fourninety.com  Thu Jul 27 11:31:08 2006
From: emma.glaisher at fourninety.com (Emma Glaisher)
Date: Thu Jul 27 11:33:24 2006
Subject: [EmData] Data/Catalog - extracting page numbers
In-Reply-To: <C0EE3311.1C4B3%support@emsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <C0EE9ACC.2BDA%emma.glaisher@fourninety.com>

OK, when I move onto the spread 18/19 I can't persuade XCat to update the
spread for love nor money.

When I update key field, it adds 18 to the 17 which is already in the page
field (for every item in the database!).

Either it isn't working as it should or (more likely) I've set it up wrong.

My data descriptor is:
    Sequence    Book    SortOrder    Type    Code[k]    Description    UOM
_2006 rounded price    Page[#]

A line of text on the page looks like:

903311090 [tab] 90mm LENGTH [tab] EA [tab] 89.25

the '903311090' has 'key from contents' to field 'Code'. The price is also
linked and updates fine either way.

There are now 115 pages, with just over 6000 records in the database (my
earlier 9000 was a load of blanks which I've got rid of now!).

It would be nice to get this working, as late moves from one page to another
could be updated dynamically in the index. But the Quark list works pretty
well if the worst comes to the worst.

Thanks as always for any help.
Emma



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